An Interview with the Wetegroves
This past November we interviewed two alumni, the Wetegroves. Both are graduates of the University of Texas at Austin and both majored in the biological sciences while they were here. In fact the two met here!
We have just recently published our most recent issue of the In Vivo Newsletter. The Wetegroves were two of the alumni featured in this issue. Unfortunately, we were not able to use all of the interviews due to space issues. So, we decided to publish the full interviews here for your perusal. Please enjoy!
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Robert received a BA in microbiology in 1970, an MA in microbiology in 1972 and a PhD in microbiology in 1978, all from UT Austin. He then received an MBA in Technology Management from Illinois Institute of Technology in 1988 and worked for Nalco Chemical Company research and development for 30 years, retiring in 2008. Robert’s father also studied bacteriology at UT in the early 1940s. What kind of work/research did you do after you left UT? My next assignment was as Market Development Manager, working with researchers at Imperial Chemical Industries in the UK to commercialize an enzymatic process for destroying cyanide in certain industrial waste streams. The beautiful technology was killed by some ugly economic realities -- chemical and physical treatments were cheaper and more broadly effective. I reinforced this lesson with a subsequent project to enzymatically remove a potentially toxic monomer residual from Nalco's water soluble polymer products. Head-on chemistry was cheaper, no matter how elegant and robust the biological process. Lesson learned -- choose your battles carefully. Lesson Two. Following this experience on the commercial side, and gaining an MBA in technology management, I went on to another laboratory assignment where I worked with a start up company to develop monoclonal antibody based tests for residuals of water-soluble polymers. This technique was patented, commercialized and generated substantial license revenue for Nalco. As expensive and toxic products, biocides have to be carefully applied. To address this need I worked with Microbics Corporation to develop and commercialize a bacterial bio-luminescence assay and software for residual biocide applied to an industrial process. With this monitoring technique it is possible to see the active biocide dose as a treated bolus moves around the process and fades to non-toxic levels before discharge. This technique was elegant but the luminometers were too expensive to be widely available. Lower cost and easy use are essential. Lesson Five. Stabilized halogens are important in Nalco's water treatment product line and some anomalous results were seen at higher product doses. I formed a team to define the product dosing more clearly and established boundaries to prevent "overstabilization". More is not always better. Lesson Six. Intellectual property is critical to support commercialization by providing a limited period of exclusivity. During the life of a patent technical directions may change for the patent-holder in ways that make it financially attractive to offer earlier generations of technology to other firms, or to competitors. Also, maintaining patents is expensive since annual fees are required. I was given the assignment of rationalizing Nalco's patent portfolio, identifying licensing possibilities, and pursuing attractive opportunities. Being a scientist I took an analytical approach, seeking high maintenance fees supporting scant sales. This went well. When I started to identify patents to license that supported more significant products the effort became more complex since license revenues went to a corporate account while sales losses from competitor's use of Nalco IP came from the sales of business divisions. This conflict killed the initiative -- people don't like it when your good idea interferes with their income. Lesson Seven. Halogens are excellent industrial biocides, cheap and effective, but going out of favor in some parts of the world, especially in the Europe. My last assignment at Nalco was in the lab again, attempting to identify treatment strategies that did not use halogens but which controlled microbes without causing havoc with the other treatment chemistry or the customer's metallurgy. Fulfilling this challenge has now fallen to my protégés. I could do cheap, effective, and safe, but not at the same time. Lesson Eight. Work only half-days -- 6:30 AM to 6:30 PM. Lesson Nine. Be flexible, one never knows where the next opportunity will originate. Lesson Ten. Be fair to everyone, one never knows who will be on your critical path. Lesson Eleven. With whom did you work, and on what, during your tenure at UT? What are some awards/accomplishments/ activities of which you are most proud? Were there any particular aspects of your time at UT that you believe helped you succeed? Do you have any favorite memories of your time with us at UT? (I’m assuming UT is where the two of you met and started dating?) Do you have any words of advice or encouragement for less-established alumni or students hoping to emulate your success? Anything else you would like to add? |
Peggy received a BA in Microbiology in 1970 and BS in Medical Technology in 1971 (in conjunction with Brackenridge hospital), both from UT Austin. She then earned an SBB (Specialist in Blood Banking) from Oschner Hospital in New Orleans from 1975-1977. After moving to Chicago, she started working at Central DuPage Hospital in 1978 and has been with them, in varying positions, ever since. What kind of work/research did you do after you left UT? I came back to Austin and worked at St. David’s again from 77-78. Then we moved to a suburb of Chicago, Naperville, and I worked at a hospital called Central DuPage Hospital. I worked in the blood bank there from 78-79 and then in 79 I became the Technical Director of the North Suburban Blood Center. It was a donor center where people would come and donate blood and the blood was processed. You do Hepatitis testing, HIV testing, antibody screens on the donors, you do types and Rhs, you do a variety of tests. As Technical Director I was over all areas of that blood donor lab, including education of other hospitals that were in our blood system. It was a very interesting job and I held that job until the end of 1980. At that time my kidneys were falling and in 1981 I went into kidney failure and started kidney dialysis. In March of 1982 I had a kidney transplant. One of my brothers, I have 4 brothers, donated a kidney to me and then in May of 1982 I went back to work at Central DuPage. Just started part time and gradually worked up and eventually became blood bank supervisor. I still work there, now I’m on part-time reserve. I held various positions - I was supervisor for a while. And then in 1992 I had to have another kidney transplant - another brother donated a kidney. After I came back I just worked in the blood bank as a regular medical technologist. I eventually started teaching nurses at Central DuPage, teaching them all the aspects of blood banking. Now I was back at a hospital working which is really what I love to do and I also love to teach. I’m a diabetic and a kidney transplant and my eyesight became so impaired that in 1998 I had to stop doing the actual blood banking tests. I still worked at Central DuPage, but I focused mainly on teaching and I did that until about 2003 and then I took over as coordinator for our annual blood drives at the hospital, we have four a year. As far as my blood banking career, it’s been very, very rewarding for me. Especially because there are different areas of blood banking that you can do, different areas of medical technology that you can do. If you have certain limitations, like say your eyesight, you can still teach, you can aid other departments in your knowledge. It’s really very rewarding and it has been for me. What are some awards/activities/ accomplishments of which you are most proud? Were there any particular aspects of your time at UT that you believe helped you succeed? Are there any memories that stick out of your time at UT? My main experience was that I met Bob in our senior year. He was a grader in a public health course that I was taking for my microbiology degree. He probably won’t appreciate this. It was a public health course in basic immunology and we were learning – it was almost like CSI in the early days – we were learning how to analyze bloodstains and how to differentiate if they were human or animal and doing work that they probably wouldn’t allow students to do now. Bob was our grader and we were learning how to use autoclaves and were wrapping up petri dishes in brown paper and string and we were going to take them to the autoclave to sterilize them. Bob came up to me as I was wrapping up these petri dishes – I had seen him walking down the hall and coveted him a little bit from behind, but I had never spoken to him - he came up to me and his first words to me were, “About to get things wrapped up?” Two weeks later he asked me to marry him. So, our romance went fast on campus. And I forgot to tell you one other episode. I was on campus for freshman orientation in 1966 in August and I was coming out of the Architecture building and Whitman opened fire on people and hit a young boy that was on a bicycle right beside me! It was an experience. We were herded around and hid behind bushes up against the Union building for the entire ordeal. While he was shooting I saw the woman that was pregnant get shot on Guadalupe and then we heard shots on the ground and thought that he had come down from the tower and didn’t know what was going on without the day of cellphones. During that 3 hour period I wrote postcards, I had just bought postcards and was going to tell my friends about what was going on at my orientation and I consequently wrote about that. It was another memorable experience. Terrifying is an understatement, especially because some older students who had been helping us younger students, they dragged the boy that had been hit back with us until an ambulance came and took him away. It was terrifying, but even more so for our parents who didn’t know any details and there was no communication until it was over. Bob and I were on campus in October of this year and I had never been to the top of the tower and we went to the top and it was an amazing experience. Very surreal. I tell you those guys who take you up there are wonderful, comforting, and informative and it wasn’t an unpleasant experience at all. Just to see from Whitman’s perspective– having been on one end, seeing it from his end, it was unbelievable. Do you have any words of advice or encouragement for less-established alumni or students hoping to emulate your success? Anything else you would like to add? |
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If you would like to contact the Wetegroves, you can do so at wetegrove@utexas.edu. |
Posted by Steve Franklin